1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,200 ... 2 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:13,740 Tonight on Unidentified. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,300 Before I knew it, I had these objects raining out of the sky. 4 00:00:16,340 --> 00:00:17,740 Choo choo choo choo. 5 00:00:17,780 --> 00:00:19,580 It was raining UFOs. 6 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:23,080 It wasn't an event. It was events. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,580 A helicopter arrived. 8 00:00:24,620 --> 00:00:26,720 They requested all the data reporting. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 There's things right off Catalina 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,720 that the U.S. military continue to encounter. 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,720 We don't know what they are. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,720 We have an obligation to try to figure it out. 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,720 We are getting our asses kicked. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,720 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,720 The Pentagon has confirmed the existence 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,720 of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,720 that studied UFOs and they released video. 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,720 There's a whole thing up, oh my God. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,720 For eight years, Lou Elizondo ran a secret U.S. military 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 program for the U.S. military. 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,720 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,720 I put my entire future on the line 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,720 because I believe in what I believe in. 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders. 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Their mission, reveal what they say, is the truth about UFOs. 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,720 U.S. Aerospace is being violated by vehicles of unknown origin 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,720 with advanced capabilities. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,720 This is real and we're going to get to the bottom of it. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Get your government to do what it's supposed to do 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,720 and find out what this is. 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Wake up. This is real. Wake up. 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 The gentleman we're going to talk to today, his name is Kevin Day. 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,720 He was on board the U.S. Princeton, the day of the Nimitz incident. 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,720 And he's now coming forward to say, I saw something, 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 I experienced something, I witnessed something. 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,720 That was remarkable. 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,720 It's going to be really interesting if he corroborates 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,720 some of the pilot's testimony. 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Kevin Day is the very first person who noticed 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,720 these anomalous things in the sky. 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,720 The further away we got from the city and the more remote it became, 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,720 the more I realized that this is a person who decided to get away 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,720 and get away for a long time. 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Lou Elizondo and Tom DeLong are on their way to interview 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,720 a third military eyewitness to an alleged mass UFO sighting. 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,720 A Navy veteran who says he has critical new information about the event. 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Hello. 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,720 It's your day, sir. 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,720 You must be Lou. 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Yeah, I'm Lou. How are you, sir? 51 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Good morning, guys. 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Thanks. This is Tom. 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,720 How are you, bud? I'm Tom. 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Hi, Tom. Nice to meet you. 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Nice to meet you as well. 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,720 I didn't know you were at the Top Gun course. 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Yeah, the air controllers go through school with the pilots, 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720 getting them to the fighting back without getting shot down. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Kevin Day was the chief radar specialist on the USS Princeton. 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Kevin Day was a senior enlisted guy in the Navy, 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,720 and you do not get the rank you got to unless you're very, very good. 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,720 The intent of this interview is to get your perspectives. 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Of course, we don't want to do it at the sacrifice of national security. 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,720 So I won't ask you anything classified. 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,720 I won't ask you to provide any information that's classified or sensitive. 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,720 You bet. 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 So from beginning to end, tell me your story. 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,720 I guess it's the best way to jump in. 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 We were off the coast of San Diego, Nimitz Strike Group, 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,720 getting ready to go on deployment. 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,720 The Princeton was part of the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,720 on a training mission southwest of San Diego. 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,720 When Kevin Day dispatched two pilots to intercept an unidentified craft, 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,720 he picked up on radar. 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,720 It didn't fly like an aircraft. 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,720 It's about four feet long. It's white. 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,720 It has no wings. It has no rotors. It has no control surfaces. 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,720 It's literally a think of a white tic-tac. 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,720 This image of the tic-tac-shaped object 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,720 was captured by an F-18's weapon systems camera. 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,720 It was so unnerving because it was so unpredictable. 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,720 But the story began four days earlier, 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,720 when Kevin Day says he started seeing strange tracks on his radar. 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Right around the evening of the 10th of November, 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,720 all these contacts were popping up, 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,720 and my radar covered right off Catalina Island by Los Angeles. 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,720 At first, there was like 10 or 12 objects. 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,720 Watching them on display was like watching the snow fall in the sky. 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,720 Day says the ship's system tracked the unidentified objects 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,720 dropping down from the upper atmosphere, 91 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,720 and then flying south, 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,720 and would appear to be an organized formation at an altitude of 28,000 feet. 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,720 The relative position didn't change from each other. 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,720 They were going real slow, 28,000 feet at 100 knots, 95 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,720 which is extremely weird. 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,720 Usually things that high don't travel that slowly, 97 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,720 because they'll fall out of the sky. 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,720 Do me a favor. 99 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,720 On this piece of paper, pretend this is the screen, okay? 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Okay, sure. 101 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Tell me what you're seeing. 102 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,720 So you got the carrier, you got the Princeton, the JV and the Higgins, 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,720 and up here by Catalina Island, I see these objects like this. 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,720 They look kind of just like that. 105 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,720 And they're all going 100 knots, tracking to the south. 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,720 If you added them all up, there was well over 100 contacts. 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,720 According to Kevin Day, an entire fleet of UFOs 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,720 was flying unimpeded through the Navy's exercise warning area off the west coast. 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,720 The Princeton was equipped with the military's most sophisticated radar system, 110 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,720 known as the Aegis Spy 1. 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,720 It provides a 3D 360-degree view of the entire battle space. 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,720 The USS Princeton, if you will, is the eyes and the ears for the battle group. 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,720 The Spy 1 can simultaneously track hundreds of air contacts 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,720 and can identify virtually anything that flies. 115 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,720 And eliminated the fact that they could have been friendly aircraft of some kind 116 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,720 or enemy aircraft of some kind, nothing really fit. 117 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,720 There's no recognized signature that you're picking up. 118 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,720 It's becoming evident that these things are really UFOs. 119 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,720 They are unidentified flying objects. 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,720 I didn't have a better word for it. 121 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,720 Right. 122 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,720 I was just chomping at the bit. 123 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,720 I just wanted to intercept these things. 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,720 So Captain J.L. Smith comes down into combat and I said, 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,720 Sir, I think we should intercept these things. 126 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,720 I reached out and I hooked one of them on the large screen display. 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,720 But all of a sudden this object drops 28,000 feet down to the surface of the ocean 128 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,720 and I figured it out later as a .78 seconds. 129 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,720 If Kevin Day's calculations are correct, 130 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,720 the object he saw would have been moving at the astounding speed of 24,000 miles per hour, 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,720 over 30 times the speed of sound. 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,720 99, take overhead, mother-in-heel 7. 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,720 So the captain said, yeah, let's intercept one and I was like, hell yeah. 134 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,720 After tracking the strange objects for days, 135 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,720 on November 14th, 2004, the Princeton's radar room finally took control. 136 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,720 We grabbed one of the flights that was doing a check flight off the carrier. 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Just happened to be Commander Fravor's flight. 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,720 The Princeton control comes up and says, 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Hey, fast eagle, 110, this is poison. 140 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,720 We're going to suspend training. 141 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,720 We have real-world testing. 142 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Commander David Fravor and his wingman pilot had been on a training run. 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,720 When they received the order to intercept. 144 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,720 They got into an area what we call merge plot, 145 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,720 where the pilot is in the visual arena with whatever they're intercepting. 146 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,720 It was so unpredictable. 147 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,720 So you're wondering, how can I possibly fight this? 149 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,720 And all of a sudden, overbearingly, we're here. 150 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Oh my God, oh my God, I'm engaged, I'm engaged. 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,720 I'm thinking I'm going to be watching a disaster here. 152 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Day says he watched as the Tic Tac escaped the fighter jets, 153 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,720 climbing with an extraordinary burst of acceleration. 154 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Right back up to 28,000 feet. 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Day says the dramatic encounter was just the beginning. 156 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,720 At that point, if we get a bunch of other aircrafts 157 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,720 or launching off the carrier and all these other intercepts are happening. 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,720 One of the jets was able to capture this video 159 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,720 that will go on to make headlines around the world. 160 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Before I knew it, I had these objects raining out of the sky. 161 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,720 It was raining UFOs. 162 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,720 And all these other intercepts are happening. 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,720 And before I knew it, I had these objects raining out of the sky. 164 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,720 It was raining UFOs. 165 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,720 For eight years, Loo Elizondo ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or ATIP. 166 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,720 A secret Pentagon unit had investigated UFOs. 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Now he's working with a team of former government insiders, assembled by Tom DeLong. 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Their mission, reveal what they say, is the truth about UFOs. 169 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,720 They're starting with the Nimitz incident, the full story of which has never been told. 170 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Until now. 171 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,720 I'm telling you it was the most humbling experience of my life. 172 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,720 In his first on-camera interview, this former Navy radar specialist 173 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,720 claims he watched an entire fleet of Tic-Tac-shaped UFOs evade Navy F-18s. 174 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,720 Not only do you have the pilots seeing this Tic-Tac, but you have another eyewitness 175 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,720 that's 20 miles away on another ship. 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,720 You've got to ask yourself, are the radars being spoofed and are the cameras faulty? 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Every time these things will get in the visual arena, they would fall out of the sky. 178 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Wait till the interceptor had left and they'd pop right back up to 28,000 feet, 179 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,720 right back where they were, and continue going 100 knots. 180 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,720 It was as if they wanted to be left alone. 181 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,720 Later on shore, Kevin Day says he spoke with Commander David Fravor, 182 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,720 a pilot who went head to head with the Tic-Tac. 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 I was asking him, what the hell, man, what happened? 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,720 He said, Miko, I got to tell you, that thing kicked my ass, 185 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,720 and that kind of spurred me, I said, OK, that's enough. 186 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,720 I'm going to write an after-action report. I got to document this. 187 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,720 But when Day says he tried to document what happened, 188 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,720 he searched the ship's computers for the radar data and communication recordings. 189 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,720 Well, strangely enough, all the comms were gone. 190 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,720 All of our external communications for that whole intercept were gone, 191 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,720 which is supposed to be impossible. 192 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,720 So either someone took the old disk and replaced it, or somehow it was actually erased. 193 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,720 But the time code is there, but the recordings were not. 194 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,720 So I'm trying to understand how that's really... 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,720 Wow, I don't have a good answer. I don't know. 196 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Day claims the files were gone, 197 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 but he was able to write down a critical piece of information. 198 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,720 These things were going somewhere. 199 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,720 They fell off my radar envelope down off the coast of Baja, California. 200 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,720 OK. 201 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,720 There's a little group of islands down off the coast, 202 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,720 and right there, they disappeared several hundred miles away. 203 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Were they all going to that same Latin long down the coast? 204 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,720 They all went to the same spot. 205 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,720 I could tell you the Latin long. 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,720 The geographic coordinates where Day says the tic-tacs disappeared off his radar lead here, 207 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,720 180 miles south of San Diego, off the Mexican coast. 208 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,720 Kevin Day adds a layer of expertise that we didn't have before. 209 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:07,720 With those electronic eyes, Kevin Day can see things that the naked eye cannot. 210 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,720 And he adds an entirely new dimension to this investigation. 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Did the captain seem concerned or agitated or what was his reaction? 212 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,720 He... I can only guess what he was thinking, but he didn't seem concerned at all. 213 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,720 I think he was trying to resist the idea that there were UFOs. 214 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Let me ask you, why would he want to... 215 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Why does anybody in the Navy want to resist the idea of UFOs? 216 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,720 Because they don't want to get scoffed at, they want to get made fun of, 217 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,720 especially for a guy trying to make an admiral, you know? 218 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,720 Sure. 219 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,720 There's a lot of emotion and there's a lot of feelings behind this issue, 220 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,720 and there's a lot of stigma. 221 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,720 But it was this guy, Kevin Day, who had the courage to come forward and say, 222 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Boss, I don't know what these are. Let's figure this out. 223 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,720 You know, I was looking around, I was like, you know, all the years, all the money, 224 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,720 all the expertise and all the talent, everyone around me and this whole strike group, 225 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,720 and there's nothing we can do. 226 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,720 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 227 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,720 Thank you, my friend. Thank you. 228 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,720 You're welcome. 229 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Outstanding, and I mean it sincerely. It's been an honor and pleasure. 230 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,720 One thing is to know that there was somebody looking at a radar scope. 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Another thing is to talk to the guy who went to the Top Gun School, 232 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,720 and he's telling you we don't know what these things are. 233 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,720 That absolutely blew my mind, and he's the one that called for the intercept. 234 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Yeah, and now you know what else too? 235 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,720 He's got the lat longs he provided us on where these things may have went. 236 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,720 We don't know if they've kind of just fell off the radar, or if there's something there, 237 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,720 but either way, we got to check it out. 238 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Back in Southern California, Elizondo was updating the team on his extraordinary interview with Kevin Day. 239 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Tom and I went to go visit an individual who was in the radar room at the time of the TICTAC event. 240 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,720 He was the senior most individual responsible for that radar. 241 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,720 So here's the bottom line. It wasn't an event. It was events. 242 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,720 And it occurred over a longer period of time than we thought. 243 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:34,720 The other thing that is really interesting is he says there's data somewhere at some other server, 244 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,720 and he goes find that data. 245 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, 246 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,720 has tried to track down the records from the Nimitz fleet for that week. 247 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:51,720 One of the frustrating but very intriguing things about this is when I suggested to someone on the hill 248 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,720 that they try to obtain the deck logs for the Princeton for that date. 249 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,720 The National Archives said the Princeton logs for that date are missing. 250 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Those deck logs should be there, and we know officially now that they're not, and it's not due to classification. 251 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Unfortunately, because if they had been there, that might be another way to corroborate some of these reports. 252 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:22,720 What I would like to do in this case is be able to corroborate this with another witness from the radar room. 253 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,720 I think it would be much to our advantage to find a second source. 254 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,720 With the deck logs allegedly missing, Kevin Day's testimony may hold the key to unlocking a larger mystery. 255 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,720 One Elizondo was unable to answer when he was at the Pentagon. 256 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Why were these strange craft appearing just off the West Coast, and where exactly were they heading? 257 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,720 It takes weeks, but Elizondo was able to find another witness from the USS Princeton, 258 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,720 a radar technician who served with Kevin Day. 259 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:05,720 There was nothing unusual about all this, man. I mean, there was nothing normal about the whole situation. 260 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Wow. Let me ask you something. Would you be available to talk to you in person? 261 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Yeah. 262 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:31,720 My hope is that we'll make a serious, credible effort to acquire and analyze data which can tell us 263 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:38,720 whether this UFO issue actually does involve some other civilization 264 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:46,720 or reveals a breakthrough on the part of adversaries or even potentially an ally. 265 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:53,720 This is sort of inexcusable to me that we don't make the small amount of effort required to answer such a profound question. 266 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Hey, Gary. 267 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Chris Mellon is meeting the fourth Navy eyewitness from the USS Nimitz UFO encounter. 268 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:14,720 The more eyewitnesses you can have, the better. We were successful in setting up a meeting with this individual. 269 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:23,720 And so Chris Mellon being a former very senior person in the Department of Defense, I knew he would have some really good perspectives. 270 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,720 I feel like coffee's strong. 271 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,720 Oh, thanks so much. 272 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,720 Gary Voris was a technician onboard the Nimitz's radar ship, the USS Princeton. 273 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,720 He's never spoken publicly about the strange events of November 2004. 274 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,720 And what he has to say might provide a missing piece of critical information. 275 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Well, Gary, thanks again so much for taking the time. 276 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,720 Yeah, without a doubt, it's definitely, there is something going on. 277 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,720 What was the first indication something unusual was occurring? 278 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 The first indication is I heard. 279 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,720 Voris' story begins four days before the pilots intercepted the UFO. 280 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,720 The spy guys came out and they were like, oh, we got clutter. 281 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,720 The spy guys in terms of the radar system? 282 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Yeah, the guys that specifically work on just the spy 1 Bravo radar that came down and asked me to reset all the computer systems. 283 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:20,720 The Princeton had already picked up three strange objects. Their eGIS spy 1 radar couldn't identify. 284 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Thinking that the system was malfunctioning, the technicians rebooted the computers. 285 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,720 Brought it all back up and lo and behold, they're there still. 286 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,720 And then we started getting confirmation from the other ships that they were seeing it too. 287 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,720 What were you seeing at that point? 288 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,720 We were just seeing three tracks. 289 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,720 Three tracks? 290 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,720 Were they hovering? 291 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Sometimes they were only going a couple of hundred knots. 292 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,720 Sometimes they seemed stationary. Sometimes they moved relatively fast. 293 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,720 The way that they kind of went around us, it was almost like they were just monitoring us. 294 00:18:51,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Senior radar specialist Kevin Day says he watched as many as a hundred of the mysterious craft fly through the Navy's airspace with impunity over the coming days. 295 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,720 It was raining UFOs. 296 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Finally, on the fourth day, he scrambled two F-18s to intercept one of them. 297 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:14,720 And when one of the pilots arrived on the scene, she says she spotted a single UFO hovering over the water. 298 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,720 There was something in the water. There was a churning. 299 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,720 We were all clamoring to get on the radio. 300 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,720 What the f*** is that? 301 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,720 We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level, like within no time at all. 302 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,720 And Sonar said they got a hit. 303 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Foris claims the ship's sonar operators had seen something else extraordinary. 304 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:45,720 The object plunged into the ocean and then accelerated to a speed twice as fast as the Navy's fastest attack submarine. 305 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,720 According to one of the sonar guys, they were going 70-plus knots under the water. 306 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:57,720 The USS Louisville, a 6,000-ton nuclear-powered submarine, was patrolling just below the surface. 307 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,720 For he says he spoke with the sub-sonar team to try to understand what was happening. 308 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,720 You heard firsthand from the sonar technicians that they got a hit. 309 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Do you have names of those individuals? 310 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,720 None of them want to talk about it. 311 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,720 You've reached out to them and they don't want to? 312 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Pretty much you got who will say anything. 313 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Okay. 314 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,720 And it was only one sonar guy that could get a hold of him. He doesn't want to. 315 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,720 He doesn't want to go on record. He doesn't want anything to do with it. 316 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,720 As a matter of fact, he had asked me not to contact him ever again. 317 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Let's talk about how the tapes are normally handled. 318 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Well, strangely enough, all the comms were gone. 319 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,720 Day claims the Princeton's communications for that week were erased, but he doesn't know how or why. 320 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Voorhees says something even stranger happened. 321 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,720 A helicopter arrived. People got off the helicopter. 322 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,720 They came in and they requested all the data recording. 323 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,720 And right after that, I was requested to hand over all the data recording tapes 324 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,720 and anything that wasn't recorded on during the event, I was to erase. 325 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Just in case there was anything on it. 326 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,720 And why was that? Were you provided an explanation? 327 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,720 No. No, I wouldn't have been privy to any explanation. It was just expected of me to do it. 328 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,720 How unusual was this request to destroy and erase this data? 329 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,720 It was completely unprecedented. I'd never been asked to destroy data ever. 330 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,720 And there was no scuttlebud about where these tapes were going, for what purpose or anything? 331 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Basically, I just understood that they were going. 332 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Gary Voorhees corroborates important details of the other eyewitnesses' dramatic accounts. 333 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:47,720 But his story raises an even more troubling possibility that the Navy was involved in a cover-up of a potential threat to national security. 334 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:55,720 It's very curious, rather conspiratorial almost, the idea that a helicopter landed 335 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 and he was asked to download the data and hand it off. 336 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,720 That raises a whole host of questions about what's really going on behind the scenes. 337 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:24,720 I am aware that there are other incidents that occurred involving military assets in and around this area. 338 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Before the USS Nimitz and frankly after the USS Nimitz. 339 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,720 So the question is, how significant were they? 340 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,720 And is there an explanation for what is being encountered in and around this area? 341 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Lou Elizondo is on Santa Catalina Island, 47 miles off the coast of Los Angeles. 342 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:53,720 He's come here searching for answers to why a fleet of UFOs allegedly first appeared off the island's shores. 343 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,720 I'm looking on the radar and up here by Catalina Island, I see these objects like this. 344 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,720 They're all tracking to the south. 345 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Navy radar specialist Kevin Day told Elizondo a mysterious fleet of UFOs was first tracked over the Catalina Channel 346 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,720 and then flew south through the Navy's training area. 347 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,720 I had these objects raining out of the sky. 348 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Why is there an interest here in and around these waters? 349 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Catalina Island apparently is attracting these UAPs for whatever reason we don't know yet. 350 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Hi. 351 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,720 It was a pleasure to meet you. 352 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Very good to meet you. 353 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Parts of Catalina are off limits to the public. 354 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,720 So Elizondo has met up with Hillary Holt who works for the island's conservancy. 355 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720 See how Catalina is here? 356 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:52,720 So this area called the Continental Borderland is kind of this hodge podge of continental crust and oceanic crust. 357 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Everything to the west is on the Pacific tectonic plate. 358 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Orient me here for a second because I'm looking here and I feel like I'm almost surrounded by mountains. 359 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,720 So LAX is over here. 360 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Exactly. 361 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,720 LAX is pretty close. 362 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,720 You got a populated metropolitan area right there. 363 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:15,720 Back in 2004, US Nimitz carrier battle group was right out there. 364 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Lights are being picked up in the sky on radar and visually over there. 365 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Most of the time at 30,000 feet coming in over the water. 366 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Sometimes they're literally going from that side of the sky to that side of the sky in seconds. 367 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Historically, there have been several events right here from a national security perspective. 368 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,720 Our job is to own the battle space. 369 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,720 If we don't know what's in the sky or we don't know what's below the water, then that's a problem. 370 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,720 And there's things that are right around here and we don't know what they are. 371 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,720 We have an obligation to try to figure it out. 372 00:24:50,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Catalina has a secretive history that dates back to World War II when the military built a network of fortifications to protect against an invasion of the mainland. 373 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:09,720 There's absolutely different places across the island where you can find evidence of past military operations. 374 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Enduring World War II at Toyon Bay was a training center for the OSS, the precursor to the CIA. 375 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,720 You can go down the road and there are old radio towers and radio bunkers. 376 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:32,720 Being down here just reinforces to me the idea that Catalina Island is a strategic location and is a point of interest. 377 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:42,720 When I was talking with people about doing this show even just in the last week, I had a lot of people say, 378 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,720 oh, I've seen something weird. I've seen something before. 379 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:58,720 There was something or is something in this area that may be of significant strategic interest. 380 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,720 Now, is that what's bringing you APs? I don't know. 381 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720 And unless I look at it for myself, I'll never know. 382 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:12,720 For decades, Catalina has been a hotspot for reports of unidentified aerial phenomena. 383 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:24,720 The most credible sighting was reported by Kelly Johnson, the founder of Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works division and the mastermind of the SR-71 Blackbird. 384 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:35,720 On January 20, 1954, Johnson filed this official report with the Air Force, in which he and two test pilots described seeing a large craft flying north of Catalina. 385 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Kelly was at his ranch and the other gentlemen were up doing flight tests. So they saw it from two different vantage points, which is interesting. 386 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720 It wasn't just from a single vantage point. 387 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:54,720 Steve Justice spent 31 years at Skunk Works as one of its top aviation designers and is now a key member of Lou Elizondo's team. 388 00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,720 In light of Elizondo's Nimitz investigation, he's taken a fresh look at his predecessor's account. 389 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:10,720 The most significant part of Kelly's memo is the fact that it was profound enough that he felt compelled to write it down and send it to the Air Force. 390 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,720 It tells me he considered it to be really, really important. 391 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:25,720 The Air Force concluded Johnson saw a rare cloud formation. Justice says that explanation doesn't make sense. 392 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:37,720 I've read a number of analyses online where they conclude it was lenticular clouds or something. There are some clouds that look that way, but they don't move that way, and that's why it sticks in my head. 393 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:44,720 So what explains the reports of UFOs in this same area 50 years later? 394 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,720 The answer may lie in Catalina's strategic location. 395 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:57,720 180 miles north is Vandenberg Air Force Base, home to some of the military's most advanced aerospace programs. 396 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,720 And recently, Elon Musk's private SpaceX rockets. 397 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,720 Due south is the Navy's Whiskey 291 warning area, where the 2004 Nimitz encounter took place. 398 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:19,720 Could the unidentified craft that appeared near Catalina be part of a top secret military test, and were the pilot's unwitting test subjects? 399 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Brian Bender was one of the first reporters to reveal Elizondo's secret UFO program. 400 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:38,720 There's this reasonable hypothesis that these are advanced military aircraft that only a very few number of government officials know about, and they're being tested, and they're being seen, and they're being reported. 401 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:47,720 And that could explain why the government sort of doesn't want to talk about it, because they want to shield these secret military aircraft programs. 402 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:57,720 One of the pilots who encountered the Tic Tac shaped UFO during the Nimitz event, questioned whether what she was seeing was part of an experimental aircraft test. 403 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:07,720 When I got back to the ship, when I was frustrated that nobody was taking it seriously, one of my theories was were we vectored into a live range? 404 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Was that a submarine that launched something and was resubmerging? 405 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:26,720 I have to be careful, because I was part of ATIP. And I don't want to give the false conclusion that I'm trying to find an answer that I already have. 406 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,720 But truth be told, I had access to a lot of information. 407 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:37,720 I can tell you there are several antenna rays here that are absolutely connected to some sort of government activity. 408 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,720 So the question is, did they play a role in the 2004 events? 409 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720 I'm not sure. 410 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Louis Elizondo has returned from his mission to Catalina Island. 411 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Brother Steve, how are you? 412 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Good. 413 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720 Got a few minutes? 414 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,720 Yes. 415 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,720 He's meeting with his team member, Steve Justice, one of the most respected aviation experts in the U.S. 416 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Got a couple questions for you. 417 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:25,720 As the director of advanced technologies at Lockheed Martin Skunkworks, justice led the highly classified development of America's F-117 Nighthawk stealth fighter. 418 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:36,720 Elizondo wants to explore the theory that what the pilots from the USS Nimitz and others witnessed was in fact a top secret government test that they hadn't been briefed on. 419 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:44,720 Steve Justice worked at Lockheed Martin, which is entrusted with billions of taxpayer dollars to build some of the most advanced weapons systems in the world. 420 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:58,720 It's possible in this case that there is some very secret military aircraft program that is so secret and is shared with so few people that Louis Elizondo doesn't know about it. 421 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:13,720 So Steve, I can't completely eliminate the fact that those type of velocities potentially, potentially are achievable with certain technologies we have. 422 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:22,720 In the 2004 Nimitz incident, a Tic Tac shaped UFO had allegedly reached velocities as high as 30 times the speed of sound. 423 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:33,720 Does this technology look like anything you worked on while at Skunkworks and could this have been one of those technologies? 424 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,720 No, I'm not going to talk about anything to do with Skunkworks. 425 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:44,720 While his work at Lockheed Martin is classified, Justice is aware of a test flight that happened the same week as the Nimitz incident. 426 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:52,720 When NASA launched a hypersonic unmanned craft, the X-43 scramjet in the same airspace. 427 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:59,720 You know, the X-43 is interesting. You know, the fact that it flew in this timeframe can make it a suspect. 428 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Well, let's sit back and analyze it from several perspectives. 429 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Here's a photo from NASA of the X-43 hanging on the wing of a B-52. You can see the work cruise. 430 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:17,720 Well, these two, they saw a 40-foot vehicle. Whatever this Tic Tac was, was 40 feet, and that is backed up by radar in the video. 431 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:27,720 So the speed itself. The X-43 was hypersonic, which means it was Mach 5 or above. So here's what it takes to accelerate. 432 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,720 That's a huge signature, man. I mean, that's just, everybody's going to see that thing for 100 miles. 433 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:44,720 So that to me disqualifies, that's a disqualifying element in and of itself. What altitude? 434 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:51,720 Well, here's the strange part. It was seen at a lot of altitudes, anywhere between 80,000 feet down the sea level. 435 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Okay. You know, hypersonic vehicles that we work on today want to be above 50,000 feet. 436 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:11,720 As we step back and look at all the different pieces of evidence that we have, you know, this image, we have, you know, from an incident, you know, you don't see any exhaust plumes. 437 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:26,720 And they would show up in this type of image. The shape is wrong. The flight regime, the point in the sky, that it flies is wrong. How it flies is wrong. 438 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,720 You know, the parts we have right are some hypersonic velocities. 439 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:40,720 Without going into specific technologies, you did a lot of work for the Skunk Works, and I'm just kind of curious, does this scenario fit? 440 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,720 A common pattern the way you guys test your classified programs? 441 00:33:46,720 --> 00:34:02,720 I'm not even going to talk about how you test classified stuff. It's possible, but it means that somebody would know. It doesn't mean everybody would know, but some people would know that you were going to be operating near that area. 442 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:22,720 So it's possible, you know, if the admiral in charge didn't make a report, it could be because, you know, it was an operational test. You know, not everybody gets to know everything. 443 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:37,720 I would love it if it turned out that these were secret U.S. aircraft that were developed in some remote underground facility, and that we've achieved that kind of technological breakthrough. That would be fabulous. 444 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:41,720 Here are the reasons that we don't think that is in fact the case. 445 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:55,720 We do not operate test aircraft in the vicinity of carrier battle groups without some prior coordination. It would be completely uncharacteristic of the military to operate in such a strange haphazard manner. 446 00:34:55,720 --> 00:35:01,720 If that did happen, it would probably happen only once. Those people would be replaced in a hurry. 447 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:10,720 It's hard to conceive of a secret military test program that explains all of these instances, not just here in the United States, but around the world. 448 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:19,720 I was on the committee that reviewed all those programs. It was nothing like that on the drawing boards. When I was in the Pentagon, Steve worked at the Skunk Works, the Lockheed Martin. 449 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:28,720 He's not aware of anything remotely like this. Lou ran all the traps in the Pentagon, checked with the Army, Navy, everybody. He said, those are not ours, you know, definitively. 450 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:35,720 So, while we can't prove the negative, the evidence we have suggests these are not US vehicles. 451 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:49,720 You've been out on the road a lot, okay? And it seems like more people are coming forward. Anything change your mind? 452 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,720 No, it's only reinforced our original position. Demand was with you. 453 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:13,720 We've come a long way in just eight months, a real long way. We have all the pilots that flew that day that were involved in the alleged Tic Tac incident have come forward. I think that's huge. 454 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:22,720 Lou Elizondo, Tom DeLong, Chris Mellon and the team have made major breakthroughs in their investigation of the 2004 Tic Tac event. 455 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:29,720 We've actually learned some more information, believe it or not, what happened that day, some very compelling information. 456 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:43,720 I am delighted that we are able to give voice to these military personnel and their experiences. But these guys and what we're up against is overcoming this incredible stigma that surrounds this topic. 457 00:36:44,720 --> 00:37:02,720 The mysterious UFO encounters over the USS Nimitz carrier strike group are finally coming into focus. The team has corroborated the accounts of four military eyewitnesses. Two fighter pilots who say they were sent to hunt down one of the Tic Tac shaped UFOs. 458 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:09,720 We couldn't help but admit that we saw it because we all saw it together. 459 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,720 Do we want to not do anything and just hope they're nice? 460 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:20,720 And two radar personnel who say they tracked an entire fleet of Tic Tacs over the course of four days. 461 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,720 We are getting our asses kicked right here. 462 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:29,720 According to one of the sonar guys, they were going 70 plus knots under the water. They pretty much just went wherever they wanted. 463 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:36,720 When you look at this problem holistically, you start seeing patterns, patterns emerging. 464 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:42,720 For over 70 years, the U.S. military investigated UFO sightings. 465 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,720 In thousands of documents, the UFOs are often described as saucers or discs. 466 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:55,720 But there are also reports of shapes eerily similar to the 40 foot long Tic Tac the Nimitz pilots encountered. 467 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:03,720 This 1964 report describes a flying object shaped like a butane tank and as long as a telephone pole. 468 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:17,720 The more similarities we can find, the more congruencies we can identify, I think the more we'll be able to make an honest determination of what these things are doing. 469 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:23,720 It wasn't until 2009 that Elizondo says the Pentagon was able to establish a larger pattern. 470 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:27,720 In the early stages of ATIP we're collecting anything and everything related to frankly the phenomenon. 471 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:35,720 We had reports coming from the Navy, we had pilot reports, we had gun camera footage, we had radar returns, we had investigations that were done by highly trained people. 472 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,720 Some of the observations begin to really get into focus in 2009. 473 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:56,720 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Chris Mellon has obtained a briefing document created by the Pentagon's secret UFOs. 474 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:04,720 The presentation contains a global map of hotspots where U.S. and other military assets encountered UFOs. 475 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,720 This official Department of Defense map has never been released to the public. 476 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:38,720 Within this large circle is Baja, San Diego, and then the Navy's exercise operating area where they conduct fleet exercises. 477 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:54,720 So here we have a document that says the United States is defenseless against a threat that we have identified, an extraordinary and alarming report. 478 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,720 And here we are 10 years later, essentially in the same position. 479 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:07,720 The Pentagon unit suggested the U.S. military would be unable to defend itself against the UFO's hyper-advanced technology. 480 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,720 Those hotspots were seen all the way back in 1950. 481 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:23,720 The fact that we continue to see these things in our airspace over our military equities time and time again and we still don't know what it is and where it's coming from. 482 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,720 At this point just throw the white flag up and give up. 483 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:34,720 The briefing was created for a presentation to senior defense officials and warns if the government continues to ignore the threat, 484 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:41,720 America's adversaries could crack the technology and develop deadly new weapons that would disrupt the balance of power. 485 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:47,720 This is a live activity. We don't know what it is, even after all this research. 486 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:55,720 If they are a potential adversary like Russia or China that's made some huge leap in technology, we better know about it. 487 00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:02,720 Given some of these capabilities they're demonstrating, they could very easily shut out the lights. 488 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:14,720 We know this is happening now. We know it's real. And until we get some answers, we shouldn't rest easy. 489 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:22,720 This is not a Navy problem. This is not a Air Force problem. This is not an intelligence community problem. 490 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:29,720 This may be a much bigger, holistic global problem. These guys are obsessed. 491 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:40,720 They spent their life defending the country and now they're confronted with a phenomenon that potentially could be threatening. 492 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:48,720 Chris and Lou repeatedly say, listen, I know everybody thinks of little green men, but we're not there yet. 493 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:56,720 What we got to do first is not treat it as this backwater issue that nobody wants to touch, nobody wants to look at. 494 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,720 On the next, on Identify. 495 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:10,720 Kevin Day provided us with the latitudes and the longitudes that these things seem to be going towards. 496 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:16,720 We can actually now go to the location and try to figure out if there's any type of correlation at all. 497 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:21,720 This is a part of an image story that not only has never been told, has never really been explored.